tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post6636270494173246967..comments2023-11-09T14:29:37.102-06:00Comments on St. Louis City Talk: The Carr Square NeighborhoodMark Grothhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15778135869139492251noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post-62061466143389187552017-06-21T03:21:37.530-05:002017-06-21T03:21:37.530-05:00My sister was married at St. Stanislaus Koska. Bea...My sister was married at St. Stanislaus Koska. Beautiful church.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00544117181364491633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post-83765778516347721722014-03-24T14:01:20.664-05:002014-03-24T14:01:20.664-05:00Very interesting read. Hope the best possible outc...Very interesting read. Hope the best possible outcome comes of this area. I'm from Buffalo ny so I'm all to firmilar with the strain that undevloped land puts on a city. When city officials, devlopers AND community members come together with a plan, great things can happen. But u gotta love ur community enough to think about the "Big picture"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06671492766204306838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post-67712018352270926562013-09-02T09:03:56.752-05:002013-09-02T09:03:56.752-05:00^Miss Chelle, thanks for reading. You are right, ...^Miss Chelle, thanks for reading. You are right, I am outside looking in to all neighborhoods I visit except the one I live in. You say f stats but how else to logical people evaluate population, economic and racial trends of its residents? The U.S. Census. Facts are useful, you should not discount them. Emotional arguments are just that. Spirited and entertaining, but not always based in fact. Mark Grothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15778135869139492251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post-35456630192553520972013-09-02T02:01:34.643-05:002013-09-02T02:01:34.643-05:00Wow! Carr Square is a community of families. Gener...Wow! Carr Square is a community of families. Generations of families was raised there. My grandmother has been in Carr Square since the 60's. Most inhabitants cannot afford home ownership, most like my 80 year old grandmother don't want to. Fuck statistics! You and your wife may have a change of opinion if you actually interviewed the residents. Your on the outside looking in and is obviously clueless. Miss Chellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post-28702983291584812972013-06-23T12:31:54.790-05:002013-06-23T12:31:54.790-05:00I enjoy reading your neighborhood postings, but fo...I enjoy reading your neighborhood postings, but found this one to be off-putting.<br /><br />Per your article, the neighborhood gained 16% in population. I would hardly label that as a declining area. While the area had a massive decline in the previous census, they were able to stop the exodus.<br /><br />Yes, the area is in need of investment and services for residents. But I wouldn't call it an urban wasteland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post-90767244320267566912010-05-17T08:36:02.348-05:002010-05-17T08:36:02.348-05:00^Anonymous, thanks for your comment. My intent is...^Anonymous, thanks for your comment. My intent is not to be crude, but honest. You may not like that, and I'm sorry if you don't. You can't please everyone. <br /><br />Let's take another look at some facts:<br /> <br />19% of the "community" was lost from 1990-2000. That's not the sign of a healthy, sustainable "community". I don't want ANYBODY displaced from the city. We need every person we can get to fill up every apartment, condo and home in this town. That's one of the main factors that can save us is more people on the streets spending money, paying taxes and adding to the vibrancy of our neighborhoods and city. Carr Square ain't vibrant "anonymous". It's not and you have to admit that. I know what you mean by community, I'm not dumb. I am not suggesting that the "community" be displaced, simply adding some OWNERSHIP to the Carr Square neighborhood would be a good long term plan. Did you read the census stats in my post? 99% rental is not a good plan for sustainability. Do you like the big empty overgrown acres where Pruit Igoe used to be? Do you like the lack of services in Carr Square? Do you like the lack investment? I think you probably don't like McKee or his ilk because he's not a member of the "community".<br /><br />I would like to hear your plans on what Carr Square needs to be a functioning neighborhood that draws people in from all over the city, region and country.Mark Grothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15778135869139492251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post-23213297254121028162010-05-16T22:05:56.331-05:002010-05-16T22:05:56.331-05:00It is obvious from your crude statements and asses...It is obvious from your crude statements and assessment that you do not value the community that is already living in this area. You feel that since they are poor, they can be pushed to live somewhere else. <br /><br />What McKee is trying to do is profit from this poor community. If McKee project ever get built, because right now it seems he just wants to pocket state & city money, this community will be in the same position in a few decades. <br /><br />Your analysis is just another example of the lack of understanding and respect many have for this community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post-66572175524681910152010-05-16T09:52:18.515-05:002010-05-16T09:52:18.515-05:00^ I hear you. BUT, there are tons of places to li...^ I hear you. BUT, there are tons of places to live on the cheap here in STL. North, south and central you can find cheap rent all over the city. I don't feel too sorry for lower income people in STL, because it's insanely cheap to live here. <br />Even the nicest neighborhoods have extremely affordable rent. We have no shortage of available space for renters and more residents. These subsidized areas in Carr Square were slapped together with little thought or design standards. But they could be worked into a good plan the adds mixed uses and be part of a community that might draw in some level of racial and economic diversity that is completely lacking today.Mark Grothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15778135869139492251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7190846390008853053.post-50848016293274566422010-05-16T09:40:04.357-05:002010-05-16T09:40:04.357-05:00Surely this neighborhood must be considered the ey...Surely this neighborhood must be considered the eye of the storm of racial segregation, poverty, and misguided urban renewal policies in St. Louis.<br /><br />On the one hand, part of me agrees with you: If Paul McKee wants to come in and build a neighborhood here on open land, more power to him, right?<br /><br />But on the other hand: What happens to the 2,339 people, almost entirely black, who do live here? This neighborhood is not entirely open land, it's also people's homes. Just because they rent doesn't mean they can be disregarded. Will they be able to find affordable places to live elsewhere? And what effect will their relocation have on the places they relocate to? <br /><br />Paul McKee's top-down, large-scale, clear-cutting plan has much in common with the policies that created Pruitt-Igoe and made Carr Square what it is today.framikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10274581567045478300noreply@blogger.com